tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post6597443334959676123..comments2024-03-29T07:35:51.362+00:00Comments on Fabled Lands: Salvaging treasures from the sunken continentDave Morrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-65839885159228807022012-12-18T19:24:27.981+00:002012-12-18T19:24:27.981+00:00Tirikelu is an interesting system and it might be ...Tirikelu is an interesting system and it might be better suited to your Abraxas setting. I've made my own reformatted copies of both Abraxas and Tirikelu (for my own use) and have enjoyed reading them, though I have yet to use either in a game. <br /><br />Although they might not appeal to the majority of gamers, there is definitely a sizeable segment of the gaming population with an appreciation for non-Tolkien fantasy/science-fantasy. <br /><br />Perhaps you could revamp the two as separate projects? A systemless Abraxas setting book with suggestions for several sets of rules, and a setting-less system (but with illustrations, perhaps) for use with either Tekumel or Abraxas.<br /><br />I'd buy both (as print products, preferably.)gregarious monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395307601332415834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-40142291132425714382012-12-09T19:32:09.662+00:002012-12-09T19:32:09.662+00:00Pre-orders..?! Oh for a 25-hour day and an 8-day w...Pre-orders..?! Oh for a 25-hour day and an 8-day week :)Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-1455558415600115972012-12-08T17:52:11.721+00:002012-12-08T17:52:11.721+00:00Zzzzzz. Eh, what was that? Did somebody mention ...Zzzzzz. Eh, what was that? Did somebody mention the Lands Of Legend and the Dragon Warriors system? Blimey, this place has been lively! Personally, I much prefer the Dragon Warriors system to LL or OGL... and I just had a bizarre sense of déjà vu.<br /><br />Anyway, back on topic, I think it would be fair to say that Abraxas has huge potential as an RPG setting. Regardless of whatever system Abraxas might eventually end up with I'd still be very much interested. Where do I pre-order? :)Jiminyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928886405446170395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-15533712939659210002012-11-25T08:34:31.101+00:002012-11-25T08:34:31.101+00:00Hey Peter - well, it'd be fantastic to have yo...Hey Peter - well, it'd be fantastic to have you involved! This will have to be a project worked on in odd moments in between our official FL work (Dirk Lloyd, etc) so I expect to take a while getting anything done, but as & when I do I will certainly keep you in the loop, thanks.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-79817751734153594312012-11-25T08:30:05.741+00:002012-11-25T08:30:05.741+00:00TFT was good, but really only a prototype for GURP...TFT was good, but really only a prototype for GURPS. I'm not sure that it'd be versatile enough to cover everything a modern game needs.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-45664746986161958692012-11-25T00:40:27.200+00:002012-11-25T00:40:27.200+00:00I've always loved The Fantasy Trip from Metaga...I've always loved The Fantasy Trip from Metagaming Concepts, and C.R. Brandon has just put out a retro-clone called Heroes and Other Worlds. I haven't looked at the system yet (just ordered it, sight unseen), but anything TFT-like warrants a looksie, in my book. http://heroworlds.blogspot.com/<br />Brett Slocumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09240226222507995367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-20094730616911039872012-11-23T20:52:18.552+00:002012-11-23T20:52:18.552+00:00Hey, speaking of rules, what about the Fabled Land...Hey, speaking of rules, what about the Fabled Land rules? Not the RPG, the game book. They are really straight forward and easy to learn. Maybe you could add some tricks like more ranks (maybe 15 or 20), a 'fancy' dice (D10 or D20), split magic in two kind of skills (ritual and psionic).<br /><br />That would be awesomeIkaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13713846838494518139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-21975751941209793082012-11-22T20:41:04.070+00:002012-11-22T20:41:04.070+00:00... That'd be 'self-contained' - '...... That'd be 'self-contained' - 'elf-contained' would not apply in this case! :)Universal Headhttp://www.universalhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-52665406307227995492012-11-22T20:39:40.901+00:002012-11-22T20:39:40.901+00:00My suggestion is keep the rules very simple and ol...My suggestion is keep the rules very simple and old school - use Labyrinth Lord or one of the other D&D retro-clones - and concentrate on the background material and the roleplaying possibilities. That way it can be virtually elf-contained and easily usable by anyone. I'd be interested in being involved in a graphic design capacity Dave, sounds like an interesting project (Peter from tekumel.com here). Universal Headhttp://www.universalhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-31747608282266283672012-11-22T14:00:01.580+00:002012-11-22T14:00:01.580+00:00You mean like this?
http://fabledlands.blogspot.co...You mean like this?<br />http://fabledlands.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/baby-and-bathwater.htmlDave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-70554293227820481372012-11-21T18:13:47.446+00:002012-11-21T18:13:47.446+00:00Hi Ikaros - I probably ought to consider factors l...Hi Ikaros - I probably ought to consider factors like market and demographics, but if I do get around to doing this project then I need to love what I'm doing (it's unlikely to pay for the time it takes, after all) so I'm definitely leaning towards either BRP or Tirikelu.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-38058317757356116332012-11-21T18:11:18.219+00:002012-11-21T18:11:18.219+00:00Thanks, Tom - and good to hear from you!Thanks, Tom - and good to hear from you!Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-34229582974969775102012-11-21T13:58:04.811+00:002012-11-21T13:58:04.811+00:00I have Abraxas and liked it a lot. I also have Tir...I have Abraxas and liked it a lot. I also have Tirikelu and liked it. The two fit well. I would buy it and many gamers would . s7610rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02658417201343534248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-54203859272420110362012-11-21T10:19:02.690+00:002012-11-21T10:19:02.690+00:00Sorry, Dave. I tried to respond Swordman's pos...Sorry, Dave. I tried to respond Swordman's post<br />"The system you choose *is* an important decision (I like Tirikelu too BTW) not only because the system directly affects the exerience of play, but also for the demographics"<br /><br />I tried to remark that if you consider demographics reasons, BRP or RQ may not be a wise choise. Nevertheless, if you *like* the system and helps to evocate the game, then is a perfectly valid option.<br /><br />As School Master says below, Savage Worlds could also be a good choice. I havent tried Tirikelu, but if it is your system you should defintly choose that.<br /><br />Ikaros<br />Ikaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13713846838494518139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-3714783530294033522012-11-21T09:31:16.091+00:002012-11-21T09:31:16.091+00:00Why limit the setting with a particular game syste...Why limit the setting with a particular game system? Maybe a detailed system-free world description book will be more useful?<br />Also, add some kind of OGL/CC license for people to convert to their favorite systems - if they like it, they will come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-8975616734821127072012-11-21T06:46:29.067+00:002012-11-21T06:46:29.067+00:00Yes! Yes! By all means, yes!
Another system you ...Yes! Yes! By all means, yes! <br /><br />Another system you may want to look into is Savage Worlds. Action-oriented, easy and free to license, large following.Mark Sieferthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14409314388156575545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-39014061094997410562012-11-21T02:38:54.060+00:002012-11-21T02:38:54.060+00:00They have sold massive numbers of copies of Legend...They have sold massive numbers of copies of Legend (which used to be Mongoose Runequest II) on DriveThru for a dollar. There appears to be a lot of theoretical interest in the system given the activity on the Mongoose Boards, but there is a dearth of settings for it - Elric is the only appreciable one (although all the old Mongoose Glorantha books are available for a buck each as well via The Design Mechanism). So I suspect there's a market out there waiting for a good setting.<br /><br />RQ6 is a better system, in my opinion, but Legend has the advantage of being completely OGL.<br /><br />And you won't notice much difference from the RQ of your youth. The magic systems are refined a bit, and the combat is smoother imho. I've converted the old 80s Pavis books with very little difficulty.<br /> Swordsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05144171573448751890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-51544509428014242002012-11-21T01:30:10.894+00:002012-11-21T01:30:10.894+00:00We've always used GURPS for Legend (apart from...We've always used GURPS for Legend (apart from when I was originally getting my group to playtest DW) but I never felt it was a good fit. Not that I dislike GURPS - 4e in particular is admirable - but RQ feels like it would fit the whole Jewelspider experience a lot better.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-70786810786410669102012-11-21T01:25:42.259+00:002012-11-21T01:25:42.259+00:00I never did anything in my life for demographic re...I never did anything in my life for demographic reasons, Ikaros, I can assure you. The reason is simply that Jamie and I have enormous affection for RQ based on many all-night RPG sessions in our youth :-)Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-88911360722578218282012-11-20T23:42:38.247+00:002012-11-20T23:42:38.247+00:00Of Course!Of Course!Ikaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13713846838494518139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-78168975568864361422012-11-20T23:41:16.108+00:002012-11-20T23:41:16.108+00:00Really? RuneQuest or BRP for demographic reasons? ...Really? RuneQuest or BRP for demographic reasons? <br /><br />For example, I have never played RuneQuest. On the other hand, D20 (or Pathfinder) are really popular. If the reason is just cover more people, you can choose Pathfinder blindfolded.<br /><br />I guess the choice is to play boldly (with a brand new system) or play safe (with a stablish system).Ikaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13713846838494518139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-88730091914796183342012-11-20T23:06:02.542+00:002012-11-20T23:06:02.542+00:00I second Swordsman's suggestion about RuneQues...I second Swordsman's suggestion about RuneQuest 6, Legend, OpenQuest (which has recently had a successful crowdfunding and is headed for a second edition) or one of that family of games. The system you choose *is* an important decision (I like Tirikelu too BTW) not only because the system directly affects the exerience of play, but also for the demographics. The more players who already play the game, the more who may be inclined to give Abraxas a try. The basic roleplaying/runequest family of games has been tried and tested in many different settings over many years and has a fair number of players.<br /><br />On a side note, I am playing in a campaign which uses a basic roleplaying variant (Classic Fantasy) in Legend. Works well.Questbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00533422997911138615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-44446962944819923742012-11-20T19:35:17.147+00:002012-11-20T19:35:17.147+00:00Armour with flu! Ikaros, that's so good I'...Armour with flu! Ikaros, that's so good I'm going to have to tweet it. Let me know how the adventure goes.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-82273620545009525272012-11-20T19:20:07.980+00:002012-11-20T19:20:07.980+00:00In the end, any system that you use will be ok as ...In the end, any system that you use will be ok as long as it's comfortable for you.<br />The setting is the most important part of an RPG... where true creativity lies.<br /><br />I'm considering to make an adventure in Abraxas for my regular group. I really love the Daedalanths, Xoanons, Emulants and Living armor. As a Biochemistry I find it a really facinating concept (Just imagine an armor with flu).<br /><br />IkarosIkaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13713846838494518139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2141372262111342844.post-65646795736481093812012-11-20T18:32:26.853+00:002012-11-20T18:32:26.853+00:00Now there's an idea. I haven't looked at R...Now there's an idea. I haven't looked at RQ for years, but you've given me a hankering. I always liked the idea of RQ being used for Legend (ie the DW world) ironically.Dave Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468228790874490693noreply@blogger.com